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Spoke Length Calculator
A spoke length calculator is used to determine the correct length of the spokes for a given wheel and hub.

 
Diameter of rim at spoke holes    mm
Diameter of hub at spoke hole circle    mm
Number of spokes   
Number of crosses   
Width from hub/rim center-line to hub flange    mm
Diameter of hub spoke holes 15G (1.8mm)
14G (2mm)
12G (3mm)
 
 
Recommended Spoke Length: mm

Disclaimer: Use this program at your own risk. No responsibility assumed for its use or misuse. All measurements are in millimeters. Exact measurements are required for proper fitment.


Thanks to http://ecn.ab.ca/ebc for the calculator
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Definitions
Item      Description 
Diameter of rim at spoke holes   The idea here is "the end of each spoke within the nipples". Try to visualize the spokes connecting to your rim. When you select your spokes and nipples, assemble a set into your rim with proper thread depth and then verify your "diameter".
Diameter of hub at spoke hole circle   The size of imaginary circle passing through all holes
Number of spokes   Must be a multiple of four; most common: 24, 28, 32, 36, 40, 48
Number of crosses   Crosses times 9 must not exceed the number of spokes. Count one cross for every other spoke the spoke 'touches'.
Width of hub from centerline to flange   Or half the distance between the two flanges. If you account for "dish" (the slight offset to the left of most rear hubs to make room for gears) you would simply calculate separately for left and right spokes. The "width" increases on the left and gets smaller on the right.
Diameter of hub's spoke holes   The spoke thickness cannot be bigger than this.
 
 
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How to Measure Hub and Rim Dimensions

There are five hub dimensions: dL, dR, S, WL, WR

d, flange diameter is measured between centers of opposite holes in the hub flange. It is usually between 38 and 67 millimeters. Note that it is NOT the outside diameter of the hub's flange. Left and right flange diameters are often, but not always, the same.

S, spoke hole diameter, is the through diameter of any spoke hole. It is usually 2.6mm.


W, width from center to flange may differ between left and right sides of the hub. In this illustration, WL and WR are the dimensions you enter into the spreadsheet for the left and right sides of the hub, respectively. You can use a hub listed in Spocalc's database, or measure your own hub by following these steps:
  1. Measure OLD (Over Locknut Distance).
  2. Measure Dimension A.
  3. Measure Dimension B.
  4. WL = (OLD/2) - A.
  5. WR = (OLD/2) - B.

Not a lot of precision is needed in the width dimensions. A few millimeters error in width will only lead to a fraction of a millimeter error in spoke length.

I usually measure A and B dimensions by holding the hub lock nut against a flat surface (like the edge of my work bench), then measuring from there back to the hub flange with a ruler or caliper.

Note that you must hold the lock nut (not the axle end) against the edge.

Of course, I use two hands for better accuracy. In this photo one hand is working the camera!


 

There is one rim dimension: ERD

Effective Rim Diameter (ERD) is the diameter on which you want the ends of the spokes to lie. Most people prefer it near the end of the spoke nipple. If you want to measure your own rim (recommended, just to be sure), then follow these instructions:
  1. Insert two old spokes into holes exactly opposite each other on the rim. Count holes to be sure.
  2. Screw some nipples onto the spokes.
  3. Pull them tight and measure dimension A in the figure (the diameter to the edge of the nipples, where the spokes dissapears into them). Do this at several spots around the rim and average the measurements.
  4. Measure the length of a nipple (dimension B in the figure) and add it twice (once for each nipple). The result is Effective Rim Diameter (ERD). Thus,

ERD = A + 2B.

Effective Rim Diameter (ERD) is the dimension you type into the spreadsheet for "ERD, effective rim diameter". Of all the dimensions you actually might measure, ERD is the most critical dimension affecting spoke length, so it makes sense to measure it a few times at different places around the rim. Always count to make sure you use spoke holes that are actually opposite each other!

 
Off Center or Asymmetric rims require a slight adjustment for spoke lengths. I don't know enough about Excel to make Spocalc smart enough to compensate for rim offset, but I have two work-arounds: the easy way and the exact way.

The Easy Way: Calculate spoke length as if the rim were symmetrical. Then add 1mm to the right side and subtract 1mm from the left side on rear wheels, or add 1mm to the disk side and subtract 1mm from the non-disk side of front wheels.


The Exact Way: The idea is to adjust the hub widths to mimic the rim offset. (The change in spoke length is the same whether the rim moves relative to the hub, or the hub moves relative to the rim.) To do this, just change the left and right flange offsets by the rim offset.

Tips

  • If you use DT spokes and nipples (these nipples are about half as long as normal) add 1 to 1.5mm to the derived spoke length.
  • Spoke length is measured from the inside of the "hook", from the point where the spoke would make contact with the hub.
  • Calculations for straight-laced wheels (zero crosses) have not been confirmed.
  • JavaScript must be enabled for "compute" button to work.
  • Inches to mm: divide by .03937
  • mm to inches: multiply by .03937

 


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